I transferred to and a public univ and found it to be a great fit for me, realizing that everything along my journey (both good and bad) helped to make me stronger and teach me about life sono regrets. No college is perfect, they as adults need freedom to make own choices. If you EVER want to be in a highly sexually-charged atmosphere, these are the places to be. hahaha what a joke, and you call yourselves civilized. But even there the use of the f word would have resulted in expulsion from class. I often hang out in large groups without a chaperon at like 2am. A student may be subject to involuntary withdrawal from the University or from University housing if the student engages or threatens to engage in the following: Behavior that poses a danger of causing physical harm to self or others. Long before QAnon, Trump, and Anti-Vaxx, The Dry Pledge was THE Litmus Test of your Salvation. They make you go to chapel church services every single day, and some days you have to go to church more than once, the only exception is if you are sick enough to be in the infirmary. If anything, its pushing them further away because they feel even more separated from God. The best approach is to research the college yourself and make your decsision. The college actually will accept you no matter whatever religion you are, even if you are atheist. Mature, responsible people are able to think for themselves and moderate their own behavior. I wonder if its the product of a fundamentalist Christian school (mine was formed at Catholic schools and cheering the murder of alleged gay people was never on the syllabus). I imagine that most people know about the tendency of people who live in extremely sheltered and restrictive environments to go wild as soon as these restrictions are removed and they realise how much freedom they have, because they never learnt self-control. Clothing should not be excessively short or revealing. Arrests, convictions, and firearms understandably lead to suspension or termination, but so can purchasing and consuming alcohol (even when of age), attending a bar or a club, involvement with a cult, Satanism, or witchcraft, or engaging in sexual activity. It is a choice for the student to go there, they arent forced. Because some might say that the strict rules only serve to lead people away. I was a student of your college from 1990 to 1997. If you want to have a Christian school, make it conform to Biblical principles as much as possible. For these students, drinking is not only unwise, it is also illegal. And this is coming from someone who was offered a full scholarship to Liberty U and refused (stricter than this article implies-Biology majors beware, as evolution isnt even a theory to them). So, to be clear: Students may not eat at a brewery, alehouse, or pub even if they are just going to eat food because they can be dismissed from the University. I accumulated more than 100 demerits during my first year and because of this, they did not allow to me to return the following year. Will students at uber-Chritstian universities have this? One of my professors at UK went to my church (Southern Hills in Lexington), another of my UK professors dedicated his life to improve conditions for the poor in South America. Welcome to a nation who makes each individual feel entitled to make his own god based on his opinion. I could go on, but. (We had not had sex for those who was wondering) I was on the phone with him in my dorm room and my RA overheard our conversation. Unfortunately, that will probably never happen for one simple reason: Cedarville is so concerned with their image that they are more willing to treat their students like children than follow actual Biblical principles. "Clothing should not be excessively short or revealing," the handbook reads. For instance: (1) in your room and dont come back out after 10:30pm; (2) she was 20 and we both had to get permission for her to visit my family 35 miles away, permission from her mother and from my grandmother to go to Grandmas house; (3) we had our social privileges removed for 2 weeks because she rubbed my shoulder while I was laying on the school grounds as she was sitting on the ground next to me. This was not a good recipe for being a successful artist. I have yet to understand why people go out of their way to attack our schools when the rules do not affect them in any way whatsoever. DRESS AND APPEARANCE Our approach to standards for dress and appearance seeks to honor biblical principles of modesty as humility expressed in dress and to provide general guidelines appropriate for a Christ-centered educational institution. follow you to church? Ugh. All resident and commuter students at Oral Roberts University are required to attend church at least twice a week and find themselves to a highly restrictive dress code. Also, the writer makes it sound as if the faculty of these schools were placing the students under arbitrary rules that go beyond reason. 23:3135; Prov. Alcohol use is not repeatedly rebuked in scripture. Again, some book says so doesnt provide a justification of anything. Dallas Christian College directly addresses individuals who feel their extremely staunch policies are either too slack or too restrictive, stating that such measures strike a balance between freedom and Christian piety. Adding onto my last post you must have been reading a 40 year old manual when you wrote this stuff about Asbury. Students are expected to remove hats before entering class or chapel. Welcome to America, what a statement! Submit Maintenance Work Order. Women have to wear a dress or skirt and hose most of the time. -Engaging in or Supporting Homosexuality, this one is tricky. They just dont want you showing /Friday the 13th/ or anything, due to the content. If merely one look at offensive material is more powerful than the exalted Holy canons, your God sounds as defenseless against the Devil as you are. Are they genuinely pushing their students towards the path of Christ? Allowing dancing at any school-related function on or off campus is strictly prohibited, though students are allowed to bust a few chaste, pre-approved moves at weddings, military balls, graduation exercises, church, and family occasions provided they refrain from attending clubs, bars, or parties that allegedly lead to temptation no matter what. Or would he rather you come to him of your own free will and respect him because you want to not because you have to. Wow, imagine that. God tried to strike me with lightning for being there but he missed.lol jk The rigor is tough and the women are drop dead gorgeousbut bottom line, they are human and live life very similar to everyone else, they just do it in a bit of a different way. I obtain an Associate degree of Theology, and have done subjects to obtain my bachelor Im bruised by the experience yet my wife was forever changed. What a way to treat women like children incapable of making their own decisions! I attended Asbury for my first 2 years of college and met my wife there. Ive also chosen to go back this Fall because it follows the Bible and the rules discourage wrong things so it is Much easier to make right decisions! You are so used to being controlled that its normal or just easier to do what your are told. Carson engages in an enlightening discourse on the disputable matters Cedarville references in the student handbook. In addition, attendance at parties, clubs, casinos, restaurants, and bars is expressly prohibited except when no alcohol is present. We hope you continue to read and criticize our articles. They also require the students to dress up for all morning classes, no matter what the class was too. There is no doubt in my mind that students who wish to drink will find a way to do so, just like students who struggle with sexual temptation will find a way to engage in such activities if that is truly the desire of their hearts. In addition, they must refrain from participating in any pro-gay demonstrations or distribute literature involving equal marital and legal rights for their community. Folk dancing? If you tell them honestly what excessive use of alcohol does to people, they wont *want* to get wasted. As for chapel, yeah, its mandatory. No one is being coerced into paying thousands of dollars to go if they dont want to. Facebook. These risks include, but are not limited to, physical and mental dependency, damage to the heart and lungs, and, in some cases, death. The Cedarville Experience, our student handbook, is designed to help you be successful at Cedarville University. Theres morality, and then theres this. Who is she to judge!? Even if this situation only befalls a small proportion of the students who attend, it is bad enough that it is a significant threat. The demerits for infractions such as not wearing hose to dinner, being late to church, being late to class, staying up after 11 pm lights out to work on my art homework projects, etc. Faith College Largo Florida. Remember no one is forcing anyone to go to this college those who attend are already in agreement with the administration the writer sound like the school is repressive it isnt if you choose to live a prurient life also the remark about legal pornography shows the the commentator has no idea of what is going on its not mans law they are concerned with, its, you know, His law. We married after she graduated. It always has been, and always will be. Wow, the writer of this article is very intolerant. Cedarville College was established in 1887 by five godly men who envisioned a college that would provide Christian higher education. God didnt make us to reject each other. They also will not do anything to you for supporting it as they follow Christs example in loving everyone and not judging others for their beliefs. Students are also prohibited from recreational drug use, misusing legally prescribed medications, or using synthetic street drugs or medical marijuana. Students struggling with drug or alcohol use may obtain confidential support at Counseling Services and University Medical Services. Only God can do that. -Sex (do I really need to explain?) I know its frustrating to have people object to aspects of your lifestyle and faith, but I dont think responding with condescending bias is helpful. Eliane There are some rules that I whish didn't exist, but I understand why they are inplace, so they don't bother me all that much. A lot of the comments here seem to be objecting to what the author said by defending these schools. Cedarville goes far beyond regulations mandated in the DFSC Act by attempting to regulate the daily lives of their students whether on or off campus. College is not supposed to be your babysitter, it is a learning experience meant to prepare you for the way the world is. Again, how many die every year from alcohol and tobacco? Comments? NOTE: This is not a comprehensive argument for changing the alcohol policy at Cedarville and more articles will likely be posted in relation to this subject to review Biblical principles in depth. The school even governs how students are to go about their off-campus employment as well. 251 N. Main St. Cedarville, OH 45314 USA 1-800-CEDARVILLE (233-2784) 1-937-766-7700. for the Word of God and the Testimony of Jesus Christ. you people that are hatin on the Christian colleges are so corrupted by the devil that you think goin out drinkin, havin a good time, aborting babies, sex outside of marriage, and the overall stupidity that youre involved in is what really makes you happy. Id go ahead and start packing. I do believe Cedarville gets a lot of things right, especially in the area of academics. She would not entertain any of our children going to Asbury. In accordance with their Mormon faith, students must also refrain from the expected and reasonable discourteous and illegal behavior but coffee, tea, responsible alcohol consumption, and tobacco are also disallowed as well. Dami, 1) Some book says so doesnt justify anything. All students are also required to adhere to a stringent dress code lest they find themselves facing a few more fines along the way. Sex that is forbidden and secretive just makes it all the more exciting. ORU has a dress code which is in effect for classes, chapel and in all academic buildings. OR a girl from State college,, who has photos of herself posted , throwign up drunk in a men`s bathroom, has slept with numerous other men, a couple of abortions behind her, and had sex with strangers on spring break because she was drunk and had to take penecilin afterward, then had to lie to her future husband about it all mmmm i`lll take the girl from the christian college,, thanks. When so-called Christians give up murder & pork; & they begin smoting doves, I might start believing them. And students coloring their hair is definitely not banned.just unnatural colors are like a student couldnt dye their hair green for instance. Ill leave you with a quote to ponder. The only wont allow it if you practice satanism (for obvious reasons) or anything with sacrificing, pretty much.) There are so many problems with this statement. INVOLUNTARY ADMINISTRATIVE WITHDRAWAL This is a special, non-disciplinary process used when a student appears to pose a significant risk to self or to others, or when that students behavior infringes on the rights or educational process of others. . They love to give demerits there and everyone is encouraged to be a snitch. They completely reach into the personal lives and convictions of their students, demanding that they refrain from such so-called perversions such as premarital sex, extramarital sex (even if both parties agree to an open relationship), and homosexuality. However, no mention is made of men wearing very short shorts or tank tops that expose most of their upper body. As a matter of fact, Im taking a dance class currently! Evansville, IN Deaconess Sports Park. Use of food and drink is listed by Paul in a discussion of disputable matters. We are advised to be careful not to place stumbling blocks in a brothers way. Were MADE in Gods image, and so the things we feel and do were felt by God first! Feb 25 (Sat) 5:00 PM. I went to Asbury college and for a Christian college I have never had such a bad taste in my mouth for a group of people. What if that rule is not to be a legalistic, archaic kill-joy? -Drinking, also duh, they just actually monitor it here. I can tell from what you wrote, you were definitely enrolled at the wrong college. In the most recent statistical year 5,223 prospective students applied, and 3,251 were granted admission . Clothing should be gender appropriate. Additionally, using any source (such as D.A. Ive never had an STD, nor have I had an abortion.. in fact Ive offered to adopt 3 children at my own expense to give other women an additional option. Reviewed: 9/28/2019. For any college that you are considering, know before you go. At BJU I just couldnt get any action as the boys are all homosexual or want to be. Ten. Sure it hurt like hell but if it helps me be a better wife someday isnt that worth it ? that these colleges should countenance clearly un-Biblical behaviors, Yes, the limitations on personal freedoms were sometimes onerous, but the tradeoffs, IMO, make the typical American college experience pale in comparison. Cedarville's policy on alcohol is simply another notch in the post of treating students like children rather than adults. I always go by the philiosiphy that people dont care how much you know until they know how much you care. So Asbury, Stop preaching with your snobby attitudes and start caring about the people you preach too.you might actually gets Gods message accross that way. Access Canvas. The articles goal is to make you think some of these colleges are creating robots and the students walk around with bibles in one arm and a notebook in the other. There are a couple Id like to flesh out. (https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/themelios/article/on-disputable-matters/) While I do not agree with every aspect of Carsons analysis, he does raise some key truths about disputable matters.. I think that the questions that we really need to ask are (a) whether students are better off if they attend these schools, and (b) whether we ought to encourage students to attend these schools. Of those admitted 972 enrolled in the . While most schools understandably discourage nationally illegal activities involving drugs or underage drinking, Pensacola Christian College outlaws perfectly legal ones such as gambling, possession of pornography, dancing, swearing, smoking tobacco, and even patronizing movie theatres. . Tons of guys here have Call of Duty and Halo, Skyrim and Gears of War, heck, many have Mortal Kombat and Devil May Cry. They do not prepare you for the real world unless you want to work at and be totally immersed in a strict, judgmental and very dogmatic church for your whole life. Sexual abuse and incest are very understandably considered a violation due to their illegality and penchant for psychological damage, but legal activities like abortion, premarital and extramarital sex (even within the confines of an open marriage), and homosexuality are held up as just as appalling. If a student is of legal drinking age and wishes to imbibe in the summer, it is none of Cedarvilles business and does not impact them in any way. So do they follow the rules or not? The second problem is that Cedarville seems oblivious to the fact that the same thing has happened at Cedarville. But you cant get upset and blame teh school if you enroll and dont check out the requirements first..BYU is a great school.not a fan of mormonism, but the students that are there are great kids for the most part. Ive been asked so many times why I kept returning to such an oppressive environment. Free thinkers, thanks! Some may seem that way to those who dont adhere to a particular faith. The rule is not to Bible-thump students into submission and control. Extremely vulgar!!! As one of the underground liberal minority at the college, I disagreed with almost all the guidelines. I had to quit dressing slovenly and learned to dress well. I wouldnt go to any of these colleges, but youre giving them more crap than you should. By banning both entirely harmless things (eg violent movies) and more harmful things (eg smoking, alcohol without moderation) with the same strictness, these schools create an awful situation where students who have the intelligence and insight necessary to see that the ban on the harmless items is a load of rubbish may likewise think that the harmful things will be OK, too. Feb 25 (Sat) 3:00 PM. Demanding a radical commitment to Jesus Christ of all students involves not only the usual abstinence from illegal substances and behaving courteously, but a number of other legal but forbidden or discouraged behaviors frowned upon by the religious right as well. God bless. No video games may possess an M rating, nor are students allowed to own movies above the PG-13 rating. What about people like me with throat issues? Clothing should not have slogans that are inconsistent with University values. In other words, there is a difference between going out to drink with a friend who is an alcoholic and drinking in front of someone who is just offended by it. What do the students do when theyre not in classes? In addition, all students enrolled in 12 or more hours are required to attend at least one chapel event a week. People can have jobs with alcohol or tobacco. Alcohol is held up as equally detrimental as illegal substances regardless of whether or not a student partakes responsibly and remains at or above the drinking age and the University does not discriminate on whether or not consumption or possession takes place on- or off-campus, either. I am not a follower of Christianity nor do I have a problem with that, but these establishments are making the entire religion look crazed and judgmental Just sayin. In addition, all freshmen with jobs must consent to being chaperoned by a prayer captain or one of their assistants or an upperclassman while working. Forgery, providing incomplete or misleading information, scanning and not attending chapel, or misuse of your student ID card are examples of dishonesty that will result in discipline. The veritably Orwellian Florida Christian College combs through its students media collections, banning any books, movies, music, magazines, or video games it deems detrimental to Christianity. Often parents make that choice, not the students. My daughter graduated from Asbury this year. Choose this day whom you will serve, and if you will serve the Lord, beware, lest you make the grace of our God into Lasciviousness. It really sucks that you went to such an awful college. Register for Classes (Students) - Student Planning. She told me that I was uncapable of loving because i had not experienced Gods Love. How rude of her to think she knows my life and that I had not experienced Gods love! The first is that prohibition does not equip students for the reality of the world after they leave the campus of Cedarville University. betboo,betboo giri,bets10,jasminbet,pera-bet.xyz,pera bet,perabet giri,perabet,restbet giri,restbet,rest bet,vdcasino,vd casino,betcup,bet cup,mobilbahis,mobil bahisperabet,portobet,bahsegel,bahse gel. Students at these schools are missing out. They rally behind the 10 Commandments, but when asked about their own practices, they quickly throw up the New Testament. 5:18; 1 Tim. As Paul said, Be not drunk with wine, but we filled with the holy spirit. Well I attended Pennsacola and BJU and frankly PCC was much better. Good job elarning to sneak though. All of these policies supposedly honor the wishes of Jesus Christ and facilitate participation in the encouraged weekend activities of door-to-door and child evangelism, working in churches, and volunteering at nursing homes. LU is now one of the largest christian colleges in teh US, if not the largest. The problems arise when we disregard our fellow believers who are of weaker conscience. 8; Gal. Thats how many of those regulations mentioned in the synopsis I broke while attending the sixth college on this list. A long time ago yes, it was a very conservative campus. America as a whole is definitely not a good indicator of Gods standards as displayed in the nature of his Son and set forth in his commands. Also, youre a little too sarcastic in your sentences. Its not as strict as its portrayed here. You can view it here. Giving into that division will never bring peace. Cedarville University is a Christian university located in Cedarville, Ohio. But unless you go, you cant mock it because you havent even been there or checked it out. The place else may just I am getting that kind of information written in such an ideal manner? Please, be wise! I would strongly caution you to know he whom you so boldly challenge, and if you charge a holy God with unrighteousness, take note that it shall be accounted of in the day of your calamity. -Dressing immodestly (oh no, youre not allowed to dress like a slut and show off your assets to the entire student body) I attended Liberty from 99-01 and it was great. The Catholic Church, for example If you think that sheltering yourself in colleges such as these is a good way to prepare for the world, then youre absolutely wrong. Why all the restrictions regarding dancing? Cedarville would be served well to move on from archaic legalistic principles of the past towards being an example of grace and freedom in Christ. In addition to outright banning the expected illegal and discourteous behaviors, premarital sex and homosexuality are considered as absolute in their alleged offense to God and society as stealing and lying. Homosexuality is also wrong,because it upset God to the extent of destroying sodom and gomorah. Here are two rules that are across the board on campus (that your RA will be giving you more detail about once you arrive on campus) . However, these organizations listed in this article are forcing students to live by ridiculously strict rules and I dont see how anyone can think this is the right way to live. Welcome to a place where Gods very attributes are slandered and blasphemed. The former may not wear makeup, because breaking archaic gender tropes will rip the very foundations of society asunder. Because the nude human body is just as detrimental to society as a sawed-off shotgun. Contact our experts to see if you're a good candidate for our top MBA programs all our programs are accredited by AACSB! No one is going to forbid interracial or homosexual relationships, no one is going to forbid occult religions, no one is going to forbid fornication, and you wont be able to handle that. How about youth? They are definitely much more lax now the girls are fine wearing pants (modesty is suggested). But God does not write off enjoying anything unless it is harmful to our bodies or hurts others, neither of which are true about alcohol. There are always going to be kids that break rules.i went to parties were kids were drinking alcohol. This article oversimplifies the issue, as well as interprets the motives behind the rule, both of which are misleading. Most are Christians, majority of them from teh south and alot of them are athletes. But the following schools nonetheless play host to a number of regulations that seem rather appalling to mainstream society, and this article takes an admittedly irreverent peek at a little of what they have to say. Because I want to go to Asbury. 16 17. I do not see why people judge these schools so harshly as a non-christian I still think that these colleges are not wrong. Sickening!!! But premarital sex, homosexuality, aligning oneself with occult religions (though the handbook never actually specifies which belief systems they consider occult), using expletives, tobacco possession or use, dancing, and working at any establishment that encourages or involves any such things apparently constitute impropriety and stand as offenses worthy of expulsion. Unfortunately, 1 Corinthians 8 is the famous and ever-taken-out-of-context passage used by Christians to justify substituting their convictions for Biblical truths. You should research before you post something. Cedarville University is an independent Baptist school located in Cedarville, Ohio, which teaches its academics "by Christian tradition" meaning, believing that their take on religion is the only right view, that free speech is a no-no, that gays are evil, that evolution is religion and creationism is science, that the bible is a history textbook and that any TV show/movie/video game/book . However, I dont think its quite as strict as some of the other colleges on this list, notably 1 3. Ballroom dancing? Seems irrelevant to me. If they have agreed to attend the college, then they have agreed to live by the rules laid out by the college for the duration of their time there. Please reply, This is not a comment, but a request. Furthermore, students may be dismissed if they attend a party where alcohol is present, whether or not the student makes what the University would deem wise choices by avoiding drinking. Expressions of dance performed in a manner that honors God and promotes holiness are permitted. Maintenance Office. If you study at a high quality MBA program in the United States, you can use that degree to improve your reputation and career ANYWHERE in the world, unlike law or medical degrees (or worthless degrees from diploma mills). you know, just as there are Christians who behave badly, there are secular women who have higher standards. There wasnt anything there that drove me crazy. -Pornography duh. I would like if you can wright me. 14; 1 Cor. -Supporting or practicing religious beliefs in line with occult (This is not entirely true.
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